Comments on: Ster-Kinekor re-redesign

By: Jacques Marneweck

Jacques Marneweck — Fri, 29 Sep 2006 21:50:27 +0000

Flash is so 1999. I think using less is more. I’m not sure why Prezence believe that Flash “is the future”. They are definately not taking into account how the web has been changing over the past six years. We’ve gone from huge top-heavy sites with multiple versions of the HTML layout, to CSS and XHTML which is light.

We’ve got rid of flash and moved over to web 2.0 things. DHTML reworked to AJAX. The other thing I have to keep reminding myself is that Prezence is no Stone Wall ;) I can’t even view the Prezence website under my OS of choice. Ster Kinekor crashes my Firefox. Get rid of the flash and use decent JavaScript libraries. Learn to use Version Control. Take your vitamins. Drink lots of bioplus. Reinvent yourself. Learn how to follow web standards. Innovate. Be creative.

And no I’m not a CSS jokey. I prefer having stuff which is cross-browser/cross-platform and does not take away from the user experience.

By: coda

coda — Wed, 27 Sep 2006 22:12:49 +0000

Sure they need SEO – to rank themselves above their bad publicity. ;)
Just kidding. Actually all the linking they’ve received recently can only serve them well.

By: Digiguru

Digiguru — Wed, 27 Sep 2006 16:39:17 +0000

Neil you’re right it is a huge can of worms and something that has been much debated recently. Flash can be embedded really well these days and the vital information like links, titles etc are all readable by search engines. This specific site is not well placed for SEO, but one can’t flame all flash sites for this. Then it boils down to whether or not SK need good SEO. Honestly I don’t think so, I’m sure targeted marketing works alot better for them. With there being so few cinemas in this country it’s not likely people will be googling to find out where the closest cinema is. I’m sure there are advantages, but I would agree it’s not overly important for how they market and what they are going to achieve.

By: Neil Merton

Neil Merton — Tue, 26 Sep 2006 23:05:28 +0000

should we even mention SEO?

now there’s another can of worms entirely…

By: Nick

Nick — Tue, 19 Sep 2006 19:00:22 +0000

There it is, its all out… Truth be told working with you guys was pretty cool. I had to leave to finish uni, got the honors to prove it.

I’ve been great thanks, I’ll give you a mail sometime.

Sorry to everyone else for changing the subject. And just to steer the thread back onto the right track; I still think the new *flash* site is better than the old one, and I have a warm feeling inside knowing that corporate south africa has chosen a flash website.

By: the wes

the wes — Tue, 19 Sep 2006 16:03:41 +0000

naughty nick, we all know you USED to work for tim (digiguru too). dammit man you saw right through me, i feel so embarressed

how the hell have you been mate?

By: Nick

Nick — Tue, 19 Sep 2006 09:26:46 +0000

i’m glad to see that Tim Bishop and his guys are going to be working on it

Naughty Wes, we all all know you work for Tim….You little brown noser you.

For what its worth, flash is good and the new SK site is better, (despite having the same background colour as Entertainment Africa – upside down)

By: coda

coda — Tue, 19 Sep 2006 00:44:23 +0000

Glad you enjoyed the read Sven. No I'm not paid to blog, but perhaps you'd like to join my list of happy clients and sponsor me since you have such a keen interest in how I spend my time and what my opinion should involve. We can write about issues close to your heart, if there are any... As for web standards, maybe you'd like to share your thoughts on their merit with Sir Tim Berners-Lee, you know, that guy who invented the internet. Screaming users considered good over at 'Creating Passionate Users', as a matter of coincidence.

By: Sven

Sven — Mon, 18 Sep 2006 18:39:49 +0000

Damien/coda… for a busy guy, too busy to take up that very enticing challenge, you certainly have enough time to post long-winded replies. I don’t suppose you get paid to run this blog do you?

I came across this post looking for info on the Ster-Kinekor group and It’s been quite an interesting read. I hope that you apply the same level of scrutiny to your own business/work that you do when critting other people’s work.

In the end nobody really cares about web standards and so on because if the client is happy with it, the client is happy. If the site works, it works. The way you go on about some things on this blog almost sounds like you’re the one paying for the job. Now why does that seem so petty?

Keep YOUR clients happy… thats what you get paid for. Leave everyone elses alone.

By: Digiguru

Digiguru — Mon, 18 Sep 2006 08:23:47 +0000

Now that pretty much sums it up. Nice response Damien. I couldn’t agree more. I sill wish SK would actually respond as I can guaratee that through talking to us and listening to our suggestions we could all benefit in the long run.